Eden
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Thank you DME, I already do
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Hey Eden ... get with Avum about the sweat buying, he has something to share with you. 
Eden
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Hey DMEHey Eden ... get with Avum about the sweat buying, he has something to share with you.
, he let me lose my chance to sell my sweats for 44 days/90 half of the eligible period (since 19/08/2020). What he gonna offering more or worse than this lol. En plus! Why he doesn't react to check and report my issue to DME or to Shadow if he really needs handing some help to an Monrian new born, it suppossed to be like this, no? I gave him enough time to react (since first week of September) but unfortunately he doesn't! so I can't trust him anymore. Now all what I need to know is what I did wrong to get this!My kind regards
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Hey DME
My kind regards
Before you begin accusing Avum of things, please talk to him because he was following the rules that were set forth with regard to our sweat buying program being disbanded effective Sep 1st. We made announcements in the game and in posts that Monrian Born needed to sell at least 1k sweat to me prior to Sep 1st to start their 90 day sweat selling period.
So this is nothing to blame on Avum ... you never sold sweat to me in August, and you didn't swell sweat to Avum in September that I know of, so you have to take partial responsibility for this as well.
Talk with Avum because I made a decision on this that you will probably be happy with ... and I would advise that you should take time to periodically check with the forum to see if anything has changed so that you keep informed.
Eden
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Hello,
I'm not accusing anyone, but I'm telling you facts that happened and that you should know and distinguish.
For the point of selling before September 1st; I didn't sell because I couldn't accumulate my first 1K of sweat simply. And when I headed to Avum in September he told me first that yes I am eligible to sell and within minutes later he said no (what do you call this behavior?) So the responsablity is yours DME in the first place because, as you said, you did not transmit my name to him (because you just don't care) and on Avum in the second place because he was nearby all the time and he didn't say anything. Plus you can't project a partial responsability on me just because I couldn't have enough sweat to sell wtihout any advice and nor orientation in-game specially for this topic.
And be sure that I visit the foum most of the time before logging in (70% on the forum and 30% in the game) not occasionally only, but even while reading, for a newcomer, it's difficult especially when nobody is listening in game !!!
Finally you must know that I can never be happy with these injustices on me and your negligence in plus, unless you both show the good faith to solve this point with friendly way, "modesty" and "mutual respect", because If not nothing matters!
I'm not accusing anyone, but I'm telling you facts that happened and that you should know and distinguish.
For the point of selling before September 1st; I didn't sell because I couldn't accumulate my first 1K of sweat simply. And when I headed to Avum in September he told me first that yes I am eligible to sell and within minutes later he said no (what do you call this behavior?) So the responsablity is yours DME in the first place because, as you said, you did not transmit my name to him (because you just don't care) and on Avum in the second place because he was nearby all the time and he didn't say anything. Plus you can't project a partial responsability on me just because I couldn't have enough sweat to sell wtihout any advice and nor orientation in-game specially for this topic.
And be sure that I visit the foum most of the time before logging in (70% on the forum and 30% in the game) not occasionally only, but even while reading, for a newcomer, it's difficult especially when nobody is listening in game !!!
Finally you must know that I can never be happy with these injustices on me and your negligence in plus, unless you both show the good faith to solve this point with friendly way, "modesty" and "mutual respect", because If not nothing matters!
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Eden, after your first PM to me in the game after you created your avatar (see below), you never contacted me after that, nor sold sweat to me prior to Sep 1st. Sep 2nd was the very first time that you tried to sell Avum your sweat, which was after our official sweat program was disbanded and Avum took over buying sweat from Monrian Born who were already in their 90-day window to sell sweat.
We had announced at the forum and in the game in plenty of time that our sweat buying program would end effective Sep 1st. We also encouraged new Monrian Born to sell at least 1k of sweat to me before the program ended so that they could start their 90-day period for selling sweat under the Monrian Born Program.
After Avum contacted me on Oct 1st about your sweat selling situation, I absolutely added you to the list that was given to Avum and set your 90-day sweat selling to Avum at 2 ped per 1k sweat from Aug 31 - Nov 28 so that you would get at least two thirds of your allowed period of time. Avum told me just yesterday that you weren't showing up to sell your sweat to him, so it's not that you haven't had the opportunity, you just haven't acted on it.
Avum was absolutely right not to sell to you at the 2 ped per 1k sweat because you didn't start selling sweat to me prior to Sep 1st. When this came up on Oct 1st, I had a chat with Avum in the game to get you sorted with the sweat buying. It was then that he shared his in-game chat with you on Sep 2nd.
You first made contact with me on Aug 23rd after you created your Monrian Born avatar. Following is that brief in-game PM chat:
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2020-08-23 18:31:30 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Hello
2020-08-23 18:41:01 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] hi there ... sorry, was out of screen
2020-08-23 18:42:10 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Hey it's fine
2020-08-23 18:43:25 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] I'm new player , and i just finished the beginner's missions following the forum guide
2020-08-23 18:43:58 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] and I'm on MNAT3
2020-08-23 18:46:37 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] MNAT3 tutorial
2020-08-23 18:52:17 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] good, those will be helpful for you
2020-08-23 18:53:41 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Yes, I'm gonna read them all
2020-08-23 18:53:55 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] if you have questions, ask Avum too, he's very helpful with new Monrian Born
2020-08-23 18:54:15 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] but the community members in Monria chat are very helpful too
2020-08-23 18:54:46 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Ok, Thank you
2020-08-23 18:54:46 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] [#monria] <-- right click on that link and choose "Open channel in new tab"
2020-08-23 18:55:15 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] as Community Manager, I always have a lot going on and may not get to a PM too quickly
2020-08-23 19:00:22 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Ok understood
2020-08-23 19:01:02 [TO : Amber Eden Grace]
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Here is your Sep 2nd in-game PM chat with Avum that he shared with me because he was concerned about the situation:
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2020-09-02 19:18:57 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Do you want to slel more sweat ?
2020-09-02 19:19:23 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Yes if you agree
2020-09-02 19:19:31 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] You sold 2k only didnt you ?
2020-09-02 19:19:44 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] but how how to do that, I've no idea
2020-09-02 19:19:53 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Do you have 1k sweat ?
2020-09-02 19:19:56 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] yes 2K
2020-09-02 19:20:10 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Alright let me check that you sold 2k
2020-09-02 19:20:24 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Oh you didnt even sell today
2020-09-02 19:20:32 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] its your first time selling to me
2020-09-02 19:21:05 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] yes, my first sell in the game
2020-09-02 19:21:25 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Oh you never sold before
2020-09-02 19:21:35 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Than i cant buy from you because MB sweat program stopped
2020-09-02 19:21:37 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] never,, and I don't know how to sell
2020-09-02 19:21:59 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Well i can buy under my program but its 1ped/1k instead of 2ped/1k of MB program
2020-09-02 19:22:37 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Also to sell
2020-09-02 19:22:41 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] I don't understand, you told me before 2p per 1K!
2020-09-02 19:22:52 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] I thought you were under MB program
2020-09-02 19:22:57 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Checked the list for it you werent
2020-09-02 19:23:02 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Anyway just explaining selling
2020-09-02 19:23:11 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] You put items on bottom
2020-09-02 19:23:17 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] The items i show will be listed on top
2020-09-02 19:23:19 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] I'm Monrian Born
2020-09-02 19:23:43 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Monrian Born Sweat Buying Program will be disbanded effective Tuesday, Sep 1st
2020-09-02 19:24:14 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] I put stuff here and you put stuff there
2020-09-02 19:24:22 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] And than we both accept and there is a 2nd confirmation accept
2020-09-02 19:24:32 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Which is like a summary of the trade
2020-09-02 19:24:42 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Than once you accept those you trade
2020-09-02 19:24:49 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] ok
2020-09-02 19:25:31 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] what 's MB program?
2020-09-02 19:25:41 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Monria Born Program
2020-09-02 19:25:50 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] yes what's it
2020-09-02 19:25:55 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] what does means
2020-09-02 19:26:26 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Currently its only free yamato warp i guess
2020-09-02 19:26:47 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] It used to have starter hunting kit, starter repair kit, sweat buying and yamato warps like in february
2020-09-02 19:26:59 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] But now atm only warps are remaining
2020-09-02 19:27:17 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] We posted at monria a few times so that MB`s would sell their 1k before Sep 1st
2020-09-02 19:27:29 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] So you need to buy sweat for 1p/k? right
2020-09-02 19:27:45 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Not need, but i can offer you that price if you want to sell
2020-09-02 19:28:10 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] what price?
2020-09-02 19:28:17 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] 1p/1k
2020-09-02 19:29:00 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] well I passed 5days sweating here, and you told me to buy my sweat per this price!
2020-09-02 19:29:14 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] this is slavery price
2020-09-02 19:29:19 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Yes but there was a notice that things would change
2020-09-02 19:29:26 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] I am selling my own sweat from 1ped/1k as well
2020-09-02 19:29:34 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] you make me afraid
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Here is my in-game PM chat with Avum on Oct 1st regarding your sweat selling situation:
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2020-10-01 17:33:48 [TO : Avum AL AL] do you know when Eden created her MB avatar?
2020-10-01 17:33:56 [FROM: Avum AL AL] I dont know for sure
2020-10-01 17:34:50 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Checked logs
2020-10-01 17:35:10 [FROM: Avum AL AL] First message of her at #monria is at 20 Aug 11:18:36 game time
2020-10-01 17:35:28 [TO : Avum AL AL] ok, I kinda figured that
2020-10-01 17:36:03 [TO : Avum AL AL] no one else has brought this up regarding being MB prior to Sep 1st and not being able to sell at 2p/1k
2020-10-01 17:36:14 [TO : Avum AL AL] and it seems she might have difficulty understanding things
2020-10-01 17:36:30 [TO : Avum AL AL] I'm going to make an executive decision and add her to your list
2020-10-01 17:36:48 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Alright
2020-10-01 17:36:55 [TO : Avum AL AL] however, I'm going to use Aug 20th as the start date under the circumstances
2020-10-01 17:36:56 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Thank you
2020-10-01 17:37:12 [TO : Avum AL AL] that still gives her plenty of time to sell sweat to you
2020-10-01 17:37:28 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Will you let her know ?
2020-10-01 17:40:09 [TO : Avum AL AL] she's not in the game, but you can let her know since you are handling the sweat buying
2020-10-01 17:40:24 [TO : Avum AL AL] you have my permission to let her know you chatted with me about this situation
2020-10-01 17:43:25 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Alright thanks I will let her know
2020-10-01 17:43:34 [TO : Avum AL AL] yw
2020-10-01 17:45:44 [TO : Avum AL AL] go ahead and start it from today if she sells to you
2020-10-01 17:45:57 [FROM: Avum AL AL] 3 months from today ?
2020-10-01 17:46:02 [TO : Avum AL AL] but she has to be regular because there will be no alteration of time going forward
2020-10-01 17:46:18 [TO : Avum AL AL] I'll add her name to the list and when the end date is ... give me a sec
2020-10-01 17:46:26 [FROM: Avum AL AL] or you meant i can buy today and last day is still calculated using aug 20
2020-10-01 17:46:39 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Sure
2020-10-01 17:47:54 [TO : Avum AL AL] I'll use Aug 31 as the calculation date to keep everything sorted
2020-10-01 17:48:02 [TO : Avum AL AL] that's before Sep 1st
2020-10-01 17:49:00 [TO : Avum AL AL] her end date will be Nov 28th
2020-10-01 17:49:56 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Alright so 2 months
2020-10-01 17:50:23 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Thats quite a long time and should help her a ton
2020-10-01 17:50:51 [TO : Avum AL AL] the start date has to be before Sep 1st, so I used Aug 31st
2020-10-01 17:50:55 [TO : Avum AL AL] I updated the list
2020-10-01 17:52:27 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Saw it at the bottom
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I used the Aug 31st date instead of Aug 20th to actually give you more time. I couldn't start your sweat selling 90-day window for selling sweat any later than that because it wouldn't have been fair to others who missed the Sep 1st date. Even with this put into place, you haven't sold any sweat at all to Avum since your PM exchange with him on Sep 2nd.
Here is the list I gave to Avum of the Monrian Born who were still in their 90-day window to sell sweat after we disbanded our official sweat buying program. After Avum contacted me on Oct 1st about your situation, I added you to the list that day.
Avum has an ongoing PM with me at the forum where he forwards me screenshots of every sweat buy transaction he makes because I have to do a monthly report for Ant on all Monrian Born sweat buying data. Not once since Sep 2nd have you sold sweat to Avum, even after you were informed that I authorized Avum to buy your sweat at 2 ped per 1k of sweat.
I gave you the opportunity to sell sweat to Avum, even after you didn't sell to me prior to Sep 1st. There is nothing unfair about what took place, and if anything, you did not take advantage of being offered this opportunity.
You need to take responsibility for your own "inactions" and not selling to Avum this whole time. Whether you decide to now sell sweat to Avum at the 2 ped per 1k sweat is your choice, but the window closes on Nov 28th.
We had announced at the forum and in the game in plenty of time that our sweat buying program would end effective Sep 1st. We also encouraged new Monrian Born to sell at least 1k of sweat to me before the program ended so that they could start their 90-day period for selling sweat under the Monrian Born Program.
After Avum contacted me on Oct 1st about your sweat selling situation, I absolutely added you to the list that was given to Avum and set your 90-day sweat selling to Avum at 2 ped per 1k sweat from Aug 31 - Nov 28 so that you would get at least two thirds of your allowed period of time. Avum told me just yesterday that you weren't showing up to sell your sweat to him, so it's not that you haven't had the opportunity, you just haven't acted on it.
Avum was absolutely right not to sell to you at the 2 ped per 1k sweat because you didn't start selling sweat to me prior to Sep 1st. When this came up on Oct 1st, I had a chat with Avum in the game to get you sorted with the sweat buying. It was then that he shared his in-game chat with you on Sep 2nd.
You first made contact with me on Aug 23rd after you created your Monrian Born avatar. Following is that brief in-game PM chat:
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2020-08-23 18:31:30 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Hello
2020-08-23 18:41:01 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] hi there ... sorry, was out of screen
2020-08-23 18:42:10 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Hey
it's fine2020-08-23 18:43:25 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] I'm new player , and i just finished the beginner's missions following the forum guide
2020-08-23 18:43:58 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] and I'm on MNAT3
2020-08-23 18:46:37 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] MNAT3 tutorial
2020-08-23 18:52:17 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] good, those will be helpful for you
2020-08-23 18:53:41 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Yes, I'm gonna read them all
2020-08-23 18:53:55 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] if you have questions, ask Avum too, he's very helpful with new Monrian Born
2020-08-23 18:54:15 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] but the community members in Monria chat are very helpful too
2020-08-23 18:54:46 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Ok, Thank you
2020-08-23 18:54:46 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] [#monria] <-- right click on that link and choose "Open channel in new tab"
2020-08-23 18:55:15 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] as Community Manager, I always have a lot going on and may not get to a PM too quickly
2020-08-23 19:00:22 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Ok understood
2020-08-23 19:01:02 [TO : Amber Eden Grace]
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Here is your Sep 2nd in-game PM chat with Avum that he shared with me because he was concerned about the situation:
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2020-09-02 19:18:57 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Do you want to slel more sweat ?
2020-09-02 19:19:23 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] Yes if you agree
2020-09-02 19:19:31 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] You sold 2k only didnt you ?
2020-09-02 19:19:44 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] but how how to do that, I've no idea
2020-09-02 19:19:53 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Do you have 1k sweat ?
2020-09-02 19:19:56 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] yes 2K
2020-09-02 19:20:10 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Alright let me check that you sold 2k
2020-09-02 19:20:24 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Oh you didnt even sell today
2020-09-02 19:20:32 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] its your first time selling to me
2020-09-02 19:21:05 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] yes, my first sell in the game
2020-09-02 19:21:25 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Oh you never sold before
2020-09-02 19:21:35 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Than i cant buy from you because MB sweat program stopped
2020-09-02 19:21:37 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] never,, and I don't know how to sell
2020-09-02 19:21:59 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Well i can buy under my program but its 1ped/1k instead of 2ped/1k of MB program
2020-09-02 19:22:37 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Also to sell
2020-09-02 19:22:41 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] I don't understand, you told me before 2p per 1K!
2020-09-02 19:22:52 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] I thought you were under MB program
2020-09-02 19:22:57 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Checked the list for it you werent
2020-09-02 19:23:02 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Anyway just explaining selling
2020-09-02 19:23:11 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] You put items on bottom
2020-09-02 19:23:17 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] The items i show will be listed on top
2020-09-02 19:23:19 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] I'm Monrian Born
2020-09-02 19:23:43 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Monrian Born Sweat Buying Program will be disbanded effective Tuesday, Sep 1st
2020-09-02 19:24:14 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] I put stuff here and you put stuff there
2020-09-02 19:24:22 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] And than we both accept and there is a 2nd confirmation accept
2020-09-02 19:24:32 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Which is like a summary of the trade
2020-09-02 19:24:42 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Than once you accept those you trade
2020-09-02 19:24:49 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] ok
2020-09-02 19:25:31 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] what 's MB program?
2020-09-02 19:25:41 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Monria Born Program
2020-09-02 19:25:50 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] yes what's it
2020-09-02 19:25:55 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] what does means
2020-09-02 19:26:26 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Currently its only free yamato warp i guess
2020-09-02 19:26:47 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] It used to have starter hunting kit, starter repair kit, sweat buying and yamato warps like in february
2020-09-02 19:26:59 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] But now atm only warps are remaining
2020-09-02 19:27:17 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] We posted at monria a few times so that MB`s would sell their 1k before Sep 1st
2020-09-02 19:27:29 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] So you need to buy sweat for 1p/k? right
2020-09-02 19:27:45 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Not need, but i can offer you that price if you want to sell
2020-09-02 19:28:10 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] what price?
2020-09-02 19:28:17 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] 1p/1k
2020-09-02 19:29:00 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] well I passed 5days sweating here, and you told me to buy my sweat per this price!
2020-09-02 19:29:14 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] this is slavery price
2020-09-02 19:29:19 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] Yes but there was a notice that things would change
2020-09-02 19:29:26 [TO : Amber Eden Grace] I am selling my own sweat from 1ped/1k as well
2020-09-02 19:29:34 [FROM: Amber Eden Grace] you make me afraid
===========================
Here is my in-game PM chat with Avum on Oct 1st regarding your sweat selling situation:
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2020-10-01 17:33:48 [TO : Avum AL AL] do you know when Eden created her MB avatar?
2020-10-01 17:33:56 [FROM: Avum AL AL] I dont know for sure
2020-10-01 17:34:50 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Checked logs
2020-10-01 17:35:10 [FROM: Avum AL AL] First message of her at #monria is at 20 Aug 11:18:36 game time
2020-10-01 17:35:28 [TO : Avum AL AL] ok, I kinda figured that
2020-10-01 17:36:03 [TO : Avum AL AL] no one else has brought this up regarding being MB prior to Sep 1st and not being able to sell at 2p/1k
2020-10-01 17:36:14 [TO : Avum AL AL] and it seems she might have difficulty understanding things
2020-10-01 17:36:30 [TO : Avum AL AL] I'm going to make an executive decision and add her to your list
2020-10-01 17:36:48 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Alright
2020-10-01 17:36:55 [TO : Avum AL AL] however, I'm going to use Aug 20th as the start date under the circumstances
2020-10-01 17:36:56 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Thank you
2020-10-01 17:37:12 [TO : Avum AL AL] that still gives her plenty of time to sell sweat to you
2020-10-01 17:37:28 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Will you let her know ?
2020-10-01 17:40:09 [TO : Avum AL AL] she's not in the game, but you can let her know since you are handling the sweat buying
2020-10-01 17:40:24 [TO : Avum AL AL] you have my permission to let her know you chatted with me about this situation
2020-10-01 17:43:25 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Alright thanks
I will let her know2020-10-01 17:43:34 [TO : Avum AL AL] yw
2020-10-01 17:45:44 [TO : Avum AL AL] go ahead and start it from today if she sells to you
2020-10-01 17:45:57 [FROM: Avum AL AL] 3 months from today ?
2020-10-01 17:46:02 [TO : Avum AL AL] but she has to be regular because there will be no alteration of time going forward
2020-10-01 17:46:18 [TO : Avum AL AL] I'll add her name to the list and when the end date is ... give me a sec
2020-10-01 17:46:26 [FROM: Avum AL AL] or you meant i can buy today and last day is still calculated using aug 20
2020-10-01 17:46:39 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Sure
2020-10-01 17:47:54 [TO : Avum AL AL] I'll use Aug 31 as the calculation date to keep everything sorted
2020-10-01 17:48:02 [TO : Avum AL AL] that's before Sep 1st
2020-10-01 17:49:00 [TO : Avum AL AL] her end date will be Nov 28th
2020-10-01 17:49:56 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Alright so 2 months
2020-10-01 17:50:23 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Thats quite a long time and should help her a ton
2020-10-01 17:50:51 [TO : Avum AL AL] the start date has to be before Sep 1st, so I used Aug 31st
2020-10-01 17:50:55 [TO : Avum AL AL] I updated the list
2020-10-01 17:52:27 [FROM: Avum AL AL] Saw it at the bottom
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I used the Aug 31st date instead of Aug 20th to actually give you more time. I couldn't start your sweat selling 90-day window for selling sweat any later than that because it wouldn't have been fair to others who missed the Sep 1st date. Even with this put into place, you haven't sold any sweat at all to Avum since your PM exchange with him on Sep 2nd.
Here is the list I gave to Avum of the Monrian Born who were still in their 90-day window to sell sweat after we disbanded our official sweat buying program. After Avum contacted me on Oct 1st about your situation, I added you to the list that day.
| MONRIAN BORN NAME | START DATE | END DATE |
| Astori Ev1lK1ll Borders | 7/2/20 | 9/29/20 |
| Bryok Sithney Bennet | 7/26/20 | 10/24/20 |
| Phagar Zehelys Kira | 8/10/20 | 11/9/20 |
| Kri SweatySweat Xyz | 8/11/20 | 11/10/20 |
| aaminepp negga kh | 8/16/20 | 11/13/20 |
| Molimo Maestro Nox | 8/19/20 | 11/16/20 |
| Arthur Alpha Leonhart | 8/20/20 | 11/17/20 |
| Ilkiko LittleBerry Igloi | 8/22/20 | 11/19/20 |
| Serhii maestertigra Reshnetnyak | 8/23/20 | 11/20/20 |
| Gladora Gladora Amenath | 8/24/20 | 11/22/20 |
| Thomas MellowMarsh Davis | 8/25/20 | 11/23/20 |
| Aleksandr Monrian Born | 8/26/20 | 11/24/20 |
| NanosoldierNL NanosoldierNL Dutchy | 8/27/20 | 11/25/20 |
| Amber Eden Grace | 8/31/20 | 11/28/20 |
Avum has an ongoing PM with me at the forum where he forwards me screenshots of every sweat buy transaction he makes because I have to do a monthly report for Ant on all Monrian Born sweat buying data. Not once since Sep 2nd have you sold sweat to Avum, even after you were informed that I authorized Avum to buy your sweat at 2 ped per 1k of sweat.
I gave you the opportunity to sell sweat to Avum, even after you didn't sell to me prior to Sep 1st. There is nothing unfair about what took place, and if anything, you did not take advantage of being offered this opportunity.
You need to take responsibility for your own "inactions" and not selling to Avum this whole time. Whether you decide to now sell sweat to Avum at the 2 ped per 1k sweat is your choice, but the window closes on Nov 28th.
Eden
New Member
Hi again, all the chat posted above has no sense, if you still don't understand that I couldn't cumulate 1k to sell it before September.
And yes my taken decision to do never sell my sweat to Avum after what happened and after my chat with Shadow that told me; unfortnetly there is no compensation for my lost time "half of my eligible period" so I'm assuming my full part of responsability about the decision I made (include my choice of being one of Monrians born).
I'm not trying to sell you something;
but when I saw your answer above i found that the things should be said as it is, and whatever my inaction is that would never changes how your actions was before it.
And yes my taken decision to do never sell my sweat to Avum after what happened and after my chat with Shadow that told me; unfortnetly there is no compensation for my lost time "half of my eligible period" so I'm assuming my full part of responsability about the decision I made (include my choice of being one of Monrians born).
I'm not trying to sell you something;
but when I saw your answer above i found that the things should be said as it is, and whatever my inaction is that would never changes how your actions was before it.
Hello Eden.
The Monria team created the MB program with rules. Those rules stipulated that if you wanted to take part the participent should sell 1k sweat to DME before 1sep. if i read that correctly.
It is not their fault you were unable to do that. Rules are rules.
But inspite of that they STILL added you to the list and you CAN STILL take advantage of it.
If you choose not to, be mad at yourself not the persons trying to help even tough they don't have to.
The Monria team created the MB program with rules. Those rules stipulated that if you wanted to take part the participent should sell 1k sweat to DME before 1sep. if i read that correctly.
It is not their fault you were unable to do that. Rules are rules.
But inspite of that they STILL added you to the list and you CAN STILL take advantage of it.
If you choose not to, be mad at yourself not the persons trying to help even tough they don't have to.
Eden
New Member
If I choose not to, that doesn't means I'm mad; this refelects you mind only, btw no one is asking help here.
And whatever the other's choice is, you must respect it without being rude even if you don't like it!!
That goes both ways friend.
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I am respectfully requesting that we let this discussion end please, there's no need to further it ... thank you.
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I deleted your post Eden because what you wrote had the tendency to escalate the discussion further. I asked that no further posts be made and let the discussion end, but you seem to want to point fingers and not take responsibility for your own posting behavior, which is unfair to others.
Please do not post again in this thread on this topic.
Thank You
Please do not post again in this thread on this topic.
Thank You
Eden
New Member
Ok, I confirm that I won't post again if you would like too, I was just replying without intention to escalate the tendecy.
If you don't need me to post here why you do allow to another one to do, I've right to reply if someone is offending me even if you don't like, I'm an international lawyer and I know how to deal and where to step in such situations. Also you should take your part of responsability fairly, btw let's me annouce you and without any tension that you're abusing from your position by deleting my post just because I'm "replying" to someone who was offending me by negative comment and non by posting from my side (It's a way you take to hide what happened).
Anyway I've all the posts registred even if you deleted it, same like as you did with chat log.
Frankly If you need we stop this and we stay in game frame, it's better for all of us that this happens here than elsewhere, by no one posts here again not only me! because if it last more, this conversation will turned into user right violation. Have a good day!
If you don't need me to post here why you do allow to another one to do, I've right to reply if someone is offending me even if you don't like, I'm an international lawyer and I know how to deal and where to step in such situations. Also you should take your part of responsability fairly, btw let's me annouce you and without any tension that you're abusing from your position by deleting my post just because I'm "replying" to someone who was offending me by negative comment and non by posting from my side (It's a way you take to hide what happened).
Anyway I've all the posts registred even if you deleted it, same like as you did with chat log.
Frankly If you need we stop this and we stay in game frame, it's better for all of us that this happens here than elsewhere, by no one posts here again not only me! because if it last more, this conversation will turned into user right violation. Have a good day!
DarkMoonEnigma
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Community & Media Manager
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Eden, as Community Manager, I normally handle these things in private, but you came into this forum and posted accusations that weren't true and made the situation public for the community to judge, so it forced me to respond in public as well.
Your posts were not "constructive" and created a dialogue that was not conducive to resolving your issue, or even allowing us to work toward helping to resolve the situation.
Several of us tried to help you in the game, but you made choices to not sell your sweat to Avum and removed yourself from the situation making accusations that the program was a scam. Because of your behavior and "inactions" in the game and posts in this thread, I was compelled to address your accusation against myself and Avum that were totally false. I was constructive in pointing out the timeline of our efforts, and that we indeed were trying to help you.
I set you up with Avum to buy your sweat for 2 ped per 1k sweat, which I didn't have to do because of the rules, but you decided not to accept it. Instead of taking advantage of it, you complained and called the program a scam. Not once did you sell any sweat to Avum in September, October or November, and not doing so, you missed an opportunity to gain additional peds.
Being constructive when you have issues allows people to help you sort things out, which we were all willing to do, but in the process, you were trying to dictate what should have been when you didn't follow the rules. It doesn't work that way. This came up on Oct 1st, and if I gave you a full 90-day period of time within which to sell your sweat to Avum at the 2 ped per 1k sweat, then I would have to do that for others, so I was trying to be accommodating by at least giving you a couple of months to sell your sweat to Avum.
Also, I learned Sunday during the Yamato warp schedule that you have been a member of Cult of the Skull for about 7 weeks now, and I know the members of that society quite well, including the Leader, Leshrac. They are great people and major contributors to our community, including 6 of them who are active members of our Yamato crew as Pilots and Flight Managers. Did you not have any discussions with your society members within the last 7 weeks about the sweating and what was available to you? I know that you were given the link to the Monrian Born Program that lays out specifically what your benefits are as a Monrian Born and what the rules are. Did you take any time to have a read so that you understood everything?
There's no need for your "international lawyer" threat because it has no place here. Posting the information that I did was to show the timeline of the events and that your accusations were false. I actually should have left your post in place so that it could be seen as a continuation of you not accepting that we made attempts to sort the sweating issue out and give you a means to take advantage of it.
We have an incredibly helpful community, and we spent 5 years in partnership with them building a cohesive environment where we all work together and help each other, which is what several of us were trying to do for you. I wish you would have taken up our offer and at least tried to understand that we have program rules set in place that apply to everyone. I was bending them a bit to try to be accommodating so that you would at least have two months to sell sweat to Avum.
People know that if they have issues, they can present them and request help to get them resolved, but coming to the forum with accusations is not the way to do it, and especially when it took you nearly two months to bring it up again after you were given the opportunity to sell your sweat to Avum.
Please take the time to get to know the community and what we are about. Thank You
Your posts were not "constructive" and created a dialogue that was not conducive to resolving your issue, or even allowing us to work toward helping to resolve the situation.
Several of us tried to help you in the game, but you made choices to not sell your sweat to Avum and removed yourself from the situation making accusations that the program was a scam. Because of your behavior and "inactions" in the game and posts in this thread, I was compelled to address your accusation against myself and Avum that were totally false. I was constructive in pointing out the timeline of our efforts, and that we indeed were trying to help you.
I set you up with Avum to buy your sweat for 2 ped per 1k sweat, which I didn't have to do because of the rules, but you decided not to accept it. Instead of taking advantage of it, you complained and called the program a scam. Not once did you sell any sweat to Avum in September, October or November, and not doing so, you missed an opportunity to gain additional peds.
Being constructive when you have issues allows people to help you sort things out, which we were all willing to do, but in the process, you were trying to dictate what should have been when you didn't follow the rules. It doesn't work that way. This came up on Oct 1st, and if I gave you a full 90-day period of time within which to sell your sweat to Avum at the 2 ped per 1k sweat, then I would have to do that for others, so I was trying to be accommodating by at least giving you a couple of months to sell your sweat to Avum.
Also, I learned Sunday during the Yamato warp schedule that you have been a member of Cult of the Skull for about 7 weeks now, and I know the members of that society quite well, including the Leader, Leshrac. They are great people and major contributors to our community, including 6 of them who are active members of our Yamato crew as Pilots and Flight Managers. Did you not have any discussions with your society members within the last 7 weeks about the sweating and what was available to you? I know that you were given the link to the Monrian Born Program that lays out specifically what your benefits are as a Monrian Born and what the rules are. Did you take any time to have a read so that you understood everything?
There's no need for your "international lawyer" threat because it has no place here. Posting the information that I did was to show the timeline of the events and that your accusations were false. I actually should have left your post in place so that it could be seen as a continuation of you not accepting that we made attempts to sort the sweating issue out and give you a means to take advantage of it.
We have an incredibly helpful community, and we spent 5 years in partnership with them building a cohesive environment where we all work together and help each other, which is what several of us were trying to do for you. I wish you would have taken up our offer and at least tried to understand that we have program rules set in place that apply to everyone. I was bending them a bit to try to be accommodating so that you would at least have two months to sell sweat to Avum.
People know that if they have issues, they can present them and request help to get them resolved, but coming to the forum with accusations is not the way to do it, and especially when it took you nearly two months to bring it up again after you were given the opportunity to sell your sweat to Avum.
Please take the time to get to know the community and what we are about. Thank You
Eden
New Member
Hi DME,
You came again insulting me first, you put your fake accusations on me then you asked me kindly to just drop this please, what kind of people could adopt this manner!? Btw people have all their rights to reply and express their point of view as long as their talk is legal; without insults, hassarments, hurting the others... unlike as you did to me above. If you feel tired you just leave it.
One more time as you said! just keep your injustices on me away again and again, because it's not accepted, your rudness included.
I remind you that you don't have right to judge people as you like just because you're manager in the forum, in plus you're not the public, you don't represent the public here, you just talk about yourself and about your two other friends.
And let's the public know you never told me that I'm still eligible to benefit of my full period after what happened with Avum and Shadow untill you wrote it yesterday, I even never meet you in-game you're all the time offline when I'm playing.
Let's be Clear here and let's the public judges who's really rude and who put fake accusations on the other, brievely in 1,2,3 points:
1- I joined Monira August the 19th 2020, reading for awhile in forum and trying to play in-game... following MNAT instructions untill chapter4 (sweating) "last week of August" and I've meet Shadow in-game who helped me for "cases mission" and meet Avum who shown me the sweat circle. The guy is standing all day most of time afk, rarely he said something. And I still had no enough sweat to sell on me for august. If you think this is an accusation, the public could ask the sweaters there or even they could check up by themselves.
2- One week later we already were in first week of September, and the guy started talking "I buy the sweat" lol. I asked him what's the price he said 2p/k then he said no 1k/k why? because I'm not listed on Monrian Born before Sep, I said "this guy was standing beside me along the week before and I'm wearing the MB T-shit, how this coud be the official's behavior" I reacted by told him I wont sell for 1p/K this is slavery price, then I told him that I'm afraid of him and I went away, sweating alone along of the month in the Cave and around Forensics TP, the guy stayed silent towards me and no one tried to explain to me what happens (is this an official's behavior?). Again this is not accusation this is a facts; if there's a chat log of Avum with me after first week of Sep. untill October, please post it!!!
3- After this whole silence, that I evaluated unusual and doubious, I've taken two decisions of my full right and choice: avoid Avum and speak to Shadow to understand what really happens? Shadow asked me to send her the screeshot proof of my account creation date, then she redirected me to this current post with DME that I'm still answering only. Once again in-game Shadow and me had a conversation where she told me to get in touch with Avum (the guy I decided to avoid) based on the facts shown above, not by accusation. Also I asked Shadow if I gonna recover my lost days (45/90), she said "unfortunely no" at this point when I felt and I expressed to her in Pm my feeling of being scammed by that person who let me lose my important chance of my game play and also expressed my sad feeling of making choice to born in Monria because of what happened. That letted me to take another decision based on Shadow reply and I told her I'd never go back to this guy (if he's the only way to take part of the program) and I didn't replied to his email, simply because I don't deal with people like this in my life. All these decisions has been taken by me based on facts and reasons.
Now let's public judging if I made any accusations and let's the people compare what really happened with your remixed version above lol.
And yes I'm advocate in my office, but here I'm just an EU poor noob. The word was quoted in a context where it was necessary to know that you were talking to a responsible person who knows and defends well her rights as much as she does with the rights of the others.
So if you feel uncovered talking in public we can talk in private, to be sure there's no bully tactic. Nobody put you in the corner except yourself.
After this ample explanation on what really happened, all known all shown, I wont add any comment anymore about this topic here, I feel it's enough... even if you decide to continue your injustice on me, because from now I let's the public replies to you but sure thing not by texts.
And an advice from a big sister; to be able to expand a projet into big scale you must care imperatively its small details. Here I turn this page.
You came again insulting me first, you put your fake accusations on me then you asked me kindly to just drop this please, what kind of people could adopt this manner!? Btw people have all their rights to reply and express their point of view as long as their talk is legal; without insults, hassarments, hurting the others... unlike as you did to me above. If you feel tired you just leave it.
One more time as you said! just keep your injustices on me away again and again, because it's not accepted, your rudness included.
I remind you that you don't have right to judge people as you like just because you're manager in the forum, in plus you're not the public, you don't represent the public here, you just talk about yourself and about your two other friends.
And let's the public know you never told me that I'm still eligible to benefit of my full period after what happened with Avum and Shadow untill you wrote it yesterday, I even never meet you in-game you're all the time offline when I'm playing.
Let's be Clear here and let's the public judges who's really rude and who put fake accusations on the other, brievely in 1,2,3 points:
1- I joined Monira August the 19th 2020, reading for awhile in forum and trying to play in-game... following MNAT instructions untill chapter4 (sweating) "last week of August" and I've meet Shadow in-game who helped me for "cases mission" and meet Avum who shown me the sweat circle. The guy is standing all day most of time afk, rarely he said something. And I still had no enough sweat to sell on me for august. If you think this is an accusation, the public could ask the sweaters there or even they could check up by themselves.
2- One week later we already were in first week of September, and the guy started talking "I buy the sweat" lol. I asked him what's the price he said 2p/k then he said no 1k/k why? because I'm not listed on Monrian Born before Sep, I said "this guy was standing beside me along the week before and I'm wearing the MB T-shit, how this coud be the official's behavior" I reacted by told him I wont sell for 1p/K this is slavery price, then I told him that I'm afraid of him and I went away, sweating alone along of the month in the Cave and around Forensics TP, the guy stayed silent towards me and no one tried to explain to me what happens (is this an official's behavior?). Again this is not accusation this is a facts; if there's a chat log of Avum with me after first week of Sep. untill October, please post it!!!
3- After this whole silence, that I evaluated unusual and doubious, I've taken two decisions of my full right and choice: avoid Avum and speak to Shadow to understand what really happens? Shadow asked me to send her the screeshot proof of my account creation date, then she redirected me to this current post with DME that I'm still answering only. Once again in-game Shadow and me had a conversation where she told me to get in touch with Avum (the guy I decided to avoid) based on the facts shown above, not by accusation. Also I asked Shadow if I gonna recover my lost days (45/90), she said "unfortunely no" at this point when I felt and I expressed to her in Pm my feeling of being scammed by that person who let me lose my important chance of my game play and also expressed my sad feeling of making choice to born in Monria because of what happened. That letted me to take another decision based on Shadow reply and I told her I'd never go back to this guy (if he's the only way to take part of the program) and I didn't replied to his email, simply because I don't deal with people like this in my life. All these decisions has been taken by me based on facts and reasons.
Now let's public judging if I made any accusations and let's the people compare what really happened with your remixed version above lol.
And yes I'm advocate in my office, but here I'm just an EU poor noob. The word was quoted in a context where it was necessary to know that you were talking to a responsible person who knows and defends well her rights as much as she does with the rights of the others.
So if you feel uncovered talking in public we can talk in private, to be sure there's no bully tactic. Nobody put you in the corner except yourself.
After this ample explanation on what really happened, all known all shown, I wont add any comment anymore about this topic here, I feel it's enough... even if you decide to continue your injustice on me, because from now I let's the public replies to you but sure thing not by texts.
And an advice from a big sister; to be able to expand a projet into big scale you must care imperatively its small details. Here I turn this page.
Hi Eden,
I never insulted you, but you accuse me of being like a person by saying "because I don't deal with people like this in my life"
Can you please explain what type of a person i am ?
I will share some more of my exchanges with you since you asked for it.
1st:
2020-08-24 14:09:00 [#monria] [Amber Eden Grace] Following the MNAT guide (3), I need to try sweating and picking up the fruits and stones. How to do that please?
2020-08-24 14:09:22 [#monria] [Avum AL AL] We are doing a small sweating run atm with Pasty
2020-08-24 14:10:22 [#monria] [Avum AL AL] Sure can you come to forensics ?
2020-08-24 14:10:28 [#monria] [Avum AL AL] I will take you both to Mining TP now
2020-08-24 14:34:50 [Local] [Avum AL AL] Feel free to PM me any questions you got
2020-08-24 14:35:10 [Local] [Avum AL AL] Also dont forget that you can start selling to DME
2020-08-24 14:35:15 [Local] [Avum AL AL] and get 2 peds for 1k of sweat
This is me teaching sweat to you and pasty at the same time. As you can see by the timeline i was active for 25 mins trying to help you learn the game quicker. I can share the whole log as well if you want to really see how active i was.
I also ended with, Feel free to PM me any questions you got.
I also knew back then that the sweat buying program was going to end but it wasn`t announced yet, and i couldn't make that information public. But i still advised you to start selling to DME and get 2 peds for 1k of sweat.
You chose not to.
2nd:
I didnt like how i couldnt buy from you on Sep 2nd as well, but rules were set and at Sep 2nd you were not eligible.
You didn`t sell before Sep 1st (you can even see in my PM`s that i thought you sold 2k sweat earlier, hence why i thought i could buy from you from 2ped/1k), but after checking the list, realised that i couldn`t.
I let DME know that night. This is my message to her: "Had an event today, Eden wanted to sell sweat from 2ped/1k, and i couldnt buy because she never sold any before Sep 1st but she was born like 4-5 days before Sep 1st."
She replied to me with this : "You were right not to buy sweat from Eden at the 2 ped / 1k because they were definitely not in our program before Sep 1st. I will back you on that. Enough notice went out to alert people, and we can't set a precedent by breaking our own rules."
I wanted to buy from you at 2ped/1k but i was not authorized to make that decision. I spoke to DME and she told me not to buy from you at that price because you didn`t fit the rules.
3rd:
This is the next day.
2020-09-03 17:38:56 [#monria] [Amber Eden Grace] Hi all
2020-09-03 17:39:02 [#monria] [Avum AL AL] Hello Eden
If you had any questions regarding why i didnt buy from you, you could have asked right there.
4th:
When i wanted to PM you that DME gave me permission to buy from you within MB program you were offline, so i had to message instead of PM. The message i sent wasn`t recorded. But i still remember that i wrote to you that i had great news for you.
2020-10-02 10:37:03 [System] [] You have removed Amber Eden Grace as a friend.
That is the system message i got the next day. You removed me from your friends list after that message and you told me that you got the message. You blocked me from notifying you that you can sell sweat to me.
Blocking me from communicating with you, and not selling sweat to me was your decision.
I never insulted you, but you accuse me of being like a person by saying "because I don't deal with people like this in my life"
Can you please explain what type of a person i am ?
I will share some more of my exchanges with you since you asked for it.
1st:
2020-08-24 14:09:00 [#monria] [Amber Eden Grace] Following the MNAT guide (3), I need to try sweating and picking up the fruits and stones. How to do that please?
2020-08-24 14:09:22 [#monria] [Avum AL AL] We are doing a small sweating run atm with Pasty
2020-08-24 14:10:22 [#monria] [Avum AL AL] Sure can you come to forensics ?
2020-08-24 14:10:28 [#monria] [Avum AL AL] I will take you both to Mining TP now
2020-08-24 14:34:50 [Local] [Avum AL AL] Feel free to PM me any questions you got
2020-08-24 14:35:10 [Local] [Avum AL AL] Also dont forget that you can start selling to DME
2020-08-24 14:35:15 [Local] [Avum AL AL] and get 2 peds for 1k of sweat
This is me teaching sweat to you and pasty at the same time. As you can see by the timeline i was active for 25 mins trying to help you learn the game quicker. I can share the whole log as well if you want to really see how active i was.
I also ended with, Feel free to PM me any questions you got.
I also knew back then that the sweat buying program was going to end but it wasn`t announced yet, and i couldn't make that information public. But i still advised you to start selling to DME and get 2 peds for 1k of sweat.
You chose not to.
2nd:
I didnt like how i couldnt buy from you on Sep 2nd as well, but rules were set and at Sep 2nd you were not eligible.
You didn`t sell before Sep 1st (you can even see in my PM`s that i thought you sold 2k sweat earlier, hence why i thought i could buy from you from 2ped/1k), but after checking the list, realised that i couldn`t.
I let DME know that night. This is my message to her: "Had an event today, Eden wanted to sell sweat from 2ped/1k, and i couldnt buy because she never sold any before Sep 1st but she was born like 4-5 days before Sep 1st."
She replied to me with this : "You were right not to buy sweat from Eden at the 2 ped / 1k because they were definitely not in our program before Sep 1st. I will back you on that. Enough notice went out to alert people, and we can't set a precedent by breaking our own rules."
I wanted to buy from you at 2ped/1k but i was not authorized to make that decision. I spoke to DME and she told me not to buy from you at that price because you didn`t fit the rules.
3rd:
This is the next day.
2020-09-03 17:38:56 [#monria] [Amber Eden Grace] Hi all
2020-09-03 17:39:02 [#monria] [Avum AL AL] Hello Eden
If you had any questions regarding why i didnt buy from you, you could have asked right there.
4th:
When i wanted to PM you that DME gave me permission to buy from you within MB program you were offline, so i had to message instead of PM. The message i sent wasn`t recorded. But i still remember that i wrote to you that i had great news for you.
2020-10-02 10:37:03 [System] [] You have removed Amber Eden Grace as a friend.
That is the system message i got the next day. You removed me from your friends list after that message and you told me that you got the message. You blocked me from notifying you that you can sell sweat to me.
Blocking me from communicating with you, and not selling sweat to me was your decision.
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